Oldsmar officials, vets board members ready to move on from Memorial Day dispute

A dispute between the members of Oldsmar’s Veterans Advisory Board and local Gold Star Families of fallen soldiers threatened to cast a shadow over the city’s 2017 Memorial Day ceremony.

When a dispute between members of Oldsmar’s Veterans Advisory Board and local Gold Star Families of fallen soldiers came to light recently, the rift threatened to overshadow the city’s 2017 Memorial Day ceremony.

But despite the feud, which featured impassioned public pleas by Toni Gross to allow Gold Star family members to speak at the ceremony, as well as reports of hostile phone calls and nasty social media posts, the event was widely regarded as one of the best of its kind in the city’s history, highlighted by a record attendance and several moving moments and speeches.

During the City Council meeting on Tuesday night, Mayor Doug Bevis took a minute to address the controversy, praising the VAB for organizing the event and saying he hoped all parties involved could move forward.

Oldsmar Mayor Doug Bevis hugs Toni Gross during the city’s 2017 Memorial Day ceremony on Monday, May 29.

“Turning both our (veterans) ceremonies over to the Veterans Advisory Board is one of the best decisions we made,” Bevis said after board member Mark Brill’s wife, Eileen, thanked the council in the Audience to be Heard portion of the meeting. “It’s unfortunate the way it unfolded. The city really took a hit, and so did the advisory council.”

“But I think every year it continues to get better, and I think this one…really went a long way towards honoring the men who sacrificed their lives,” he continued.”

“That’s really what it’s about, and hopefully moving forward, we can continue to do that.”

VAB members also discussed the subject during their regularly scheduled meeting on Monday afternoon.

“No one was ever banned from speaking,” chair John Ruckart said. “(Toni) was never forbid from speaking or anything like that. A request was made of the board for Toni Gross to speak at (the ceremony), the board discussed it and said it would make more sense to honor the Gold Star mothers and families by the mayor of the city recognizing them.”

“A plan was put into place, which seemed very appropriate by everyone on the board, and that is what happened. Simply that. And then unfortunately, it spiraled out of control.”

Oldsmar’s Veterans Advisory Board members (l-r) John Ruckart, Dave Tilki, Mark Brill and Frank Chicollo at the 2017 Memorial Day ceremony.

Ruckart, who noted he has had a longstanding friendship with the Gross family, said the decision was made to allow the mayor to speak for everyone in order for the event to be more all-inclusive.

“This is not about a single person, a single family. This is about all the fallen soldiers now and in the past,” he said. “And it’s unfair to say that we don’t, in this city, do enough for the Gross family and Gold Star mothers and families. We absolutely do.”

“The Memorial Day ceremony got plenty of good comments back from many people on how well it was done. It wasn’t a failure because the Grosses did not speak.”

Toni Gross, who couldn’t attend the meetings this week

Toni Gross at a table dedicated to her son, US Army Cpl. Frank R. Gross, during Oldsmar’s Memorial Day ceremony on May, 29, 2017.

because she and her husband were in Washington, D.C. with a group of Gold Star families visiting the White House and Arlington National Cemetery, said she also wants to move forward.

But she stressed that she still is not satisfied with how the entire situation was handled.

“Had they said in the beginning, ‘Mrs. Gross, you’re not going to be speaking, we’re going to handle this in a different way,’ it would’ve gone a long way towards resolving this conflict a long time ago,” she told Oldsmar Connect by phone on Wednesday, adding she originally approached the VAB with her request in July of 2016 and up until recently, the board never gave her a reason why she couldn’t be part of the ceremony.

“Because they didn’t, I took it to the City Council because I felt it was the right thing to do.”

Gross went on to praise Bevis and keynote speaker Brian Anderson as well as the advisory board members for the event.

“I’m grateful Mayor Doug incorporated the Gold Star families in the wreath laying ceremony, and for the prayer that Brian said,” she said. “As for the board, they’re all outstanding individuals. I’ve always respected and admired them, and I still do.”

She also said she is not going to stop petitioning the VAB and the city to allow Gold Star Families to speak on Memorial Day.

Local Gold Star Families of fallen soldiers have been involved in a dispute with Oldsmar’s Veterans Advisory Board over not being allowed to speak at the city’s 2017 Memorial Day ceremony.

“They’re completely missing the meaning and significance of Memorial Day, and as far as I’m concerned, nothing has really changed about that. But that’s okay.”

“I will continue to do what I’ve been doing—going before the board with a bribe of expensive cupcakes, and asking if Gold Star Families will be allowed to speak on Memorial Day,” she added. “Because I’m doing it in memory of fallen soldiers and for my son, Frank Gross.”

While the dispute might be behind everyone for now, there’s little doubt it will arise again.

When alternate board member John Paskert asked during the meeting if it was going to be an issue every year, member Frank Cicollo had a quick response.

“It could be,” Cicollo replied. “But we’ll deal with it when it comes up.”

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2 responses to “Oldsmar officials, vets board members ready to move on from Memorial Day dispute”

  1. Toni Gross, mother of US Army Cpl Frank R. Gross kia OEF 7.16.2011 Avatar
    Toni Gross, mother of US Army Cpl Frank R. Gross kia OEF 7.16.2011

    Thank you Jeff Rosenfield for the way that you covered this developing story with grace and tact. Maybe you could offer classes to the national media sources on how to report the news with honesty and integrity.

  2. Toni Gross Avatar
    Toni Gross

    As the 6th anniversary of Oldsmar’s hometown son, US Army Cpl. Frank R. Gross’s combat theater death approaches, I would like to offer the following…..

    Quote from John Ruckart, Chairman of Oldsmar’s Veterans Advisory Board, above states….“No one was ever banned from speaking,” chair John Ruckart said. “(Toni) was never forbid from speaking or anything like that. A request was made of the board for Toni Gross to speak at (the ceremony), the board discussed it and said it would make more sense to honor the Gold Star mothers and families by the mayor of the city recognizing them.”

    I would like to suggest or recommend that any “outside organization , veterans group, families of the fallen, or representative of these groups” go before Oldsmar’s next Veterans Advisory Board meeting, Monday, Sept 25, at 4 pm and request to briefly speak at Oldsmar’s Memorial Day ceremony 2018…please be thoughtful, kind and gracious and be certain that what you would like to speak about is related to Memorial Day…as was my request.
    My sincere hope would be that your request to speak might be thoughtfully considered and possibly honored. I went before Oldsmar’s Veterans Advisory Board last year, July 11, 2016 and then April 24, 2017 with a request to briefly speak at the 2017 MD Ceremony. At the April 24th meeting, I brought with me delicious cupcakes from Oldsmar’s “Small Cakes” bakery to “soften up” the Veterans Advisory Board members, I light heartedly joked with the board members that the cupcakes were a “bribe”….sadly, knowing in my heart and spirit that they would vote to not allow me to speak bc my past requests to speak had been ignored and passed over. I did so hoping to honor the memory of all of our fallen military personnel. Later, VAB Chairman John Ruckart stated that ” Families of the Fallen should speak at Gold Star Families Day ceremonies”.
    I’m grateful that I had several offers to speak at several different ceremonies through out the area. The leadership of these ceremonies , know the meaning of Memorial Day, a day to remember those who gave their lives in service to our nation, those military personnel who died in all of America’s wars, from past to present. The leadership and organizers of these ceremonies welcomed and invited a family member of a fallen military member to speak at their ceremony, or place a memorial wreath……..knowing that these families’ fallen loved one represent the reason why we observe this solemn holiday.
    You might ask why I just didn’t shut up and go and speak at any of those other ceremonies at which a gold star family member such as me was invited to speak? I love my community, Oldsmar, I am committed to honoring and serving it, I’ve lived here for almost 20 years. Since Frank’s combat theater death in 2011, our family has received several patriotic recognitions from Oldsmar’s City Council and Veterans’ Advisory Board, such as Oldsmar’s Patriotic Award in 2011, our son and all veterans are remembered with a beautiful huge mural at R E Olds Park, a beautiful park bench at Veterans Memorial Park with Frank’s name on it was dedicated at the MD ceremony 2012, and a solemn Fallen Soldiers Battlefield Cross was dedicated in memory of Frank and fallen USMC Cpl. Barton Humlhanz, kia 8.26.2004, the Veterans Advisory Board partnering with the Boys Scouts of America. Most recently, I helped Marc Brill (member of the Veterans Advisory Board) design Oldsmar’s Purple Heart City flag that is proudly displayed in the city council chambers, I also helped pay for the flag. I am proud and grateful that my community so honors veterans, both living and fallen, and their families. The members of Oldsmar’s Veterans Advisory Board are my friends and veterans I greatly respect, Frank Cicollo., Marc Brill, and John Ruckart, all are outstanding well respected members of my community. Marc is my neighbor, Marc asked me to help him with securing speakers, local talent ( a dance troop) and the National Anthem singer for this 2017 Memorial Day Ceremony. I gladly did so and of course will gladly assist in any way possible for all future requests the VAB may ask of me. I hold no malice against them.

    Like the infamous hanging chad , Oldsmar’s Veterans’ Advisory Board needs to clearly state the reason why they deny requests from outside groups and individuals such as family members of the fallen, from speaking at their Memorial Day ceremony.

    Humbly submitted by the mother of US Army Cpl. Frank R. Gross kia July 16, 2011

    Son, may I ever do my best to remind others that “A hero remembered, never dies”.

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